The Criminal Liar Mara Lago fiasco

Can a document still be classified if it's already been declassified?

Sounds very Zen to me. I'm sure we'll figure it out though.

And you believe them?

Seven years ago Trump made his way down an escalator and announced he was running for president.
Seven years ago haters called him a known criminal liar.
Seven years later there is not one known criminal lie.
NOT ONE!

But the whiners keep whining and this recent nonsense is yet another swing and miss.

tRump absconded with 11 sets of top secret, secret, classified documents to Mara-Lago. This carries espionage and obstruction charges. You have to admit, Criminal liar is fitting. tRump bears responsibility for what documents he takes from the White house.

No Im not wrong. And what do you mean seven years?

Are there formal procedures for declassifying information?
Yes. The 2009 executive order directs the head of the department or agency that originally deemed information classified to oversee declassification reviews, and it sets some standards for them.

The executive branch has regulations laying out the process that should be followed, such as a requirement to make sure that other agencies and departments with an interest in the secret are consulted. There are also procedures for the removal of classification markings on documents.

All of which Donald Trump did not follow.

I always forget about your denial and delusional issues, and then I start to read you posts and by the second sentence, I remember..

Well okay.  Now it becomes clear as to why and how your so uninformed and unaware.  You are watching tv hoping this is all a Bond movie. I get it.
Here in the real world a president is the only one that can DEclassify anything at any time. The entire basis for this raid is nonsense and will get destroyed in court.
Another attempt at taking down a guy that simply had the nerve to run and win.  He exposed the Bidens McCains Romneys Kerrys Clintons McConnels and all the tech giants and their gravy train from China. He had to be stopped no matter what it took and the seven year assault continues to keep him off a 2024 ballot.

After the last 18 months of complete failure and destruction it takes a real special kind of stupid to admit being a democrat with a straight face. 
Good luck with that. 

Again, for the slow class, the president must go through a declassification procedure especially with the level of secrecy involved with the documents he took from the White House. They are not souvenirs but documents containing highly secured information. Just because you're a president, doesn't give you free reign over top secret documents to do with what you will. I can only imagine the histrionics the laughable right wing would be having if Obama did this. It's the law, not broke jokes demented fabricated reality.

Can you document "the president must go through a declassification procedure" or did you just hear somebody say it?

You have a sad little life friend.

I have been away for weeks and the very second I write something you are waiting to pounce with more hopeless ridiculous lies.
Do you need something to do? Do you need some mates?

Already posted, I posted it before the criminal liar started his bobbing and weaving comedy act. Once again, I post links and the Maga morons post nothing. I think the phrase was "confuse them with facts".

NARA is an act not a law.  As stated many times the president can DEclassify anything at anytime anywhere anyhow anyway.


Oh Oh this could be trouble


FBI Special Agent Who Opened Trump Investigation Has Been Escorted out of Bureau Headquarters

August 29, 2022, 11:29 pm


An FBI Special Agent who has a track record of mishandling politically sensitive investigations has resigned and was escorted out of the bureau’s headquarters. 


“A senior FBI official in the bureau’s Washington field office has been escorted out of headquarters abruptly after coming under congressional scrutiny for suspected political bias in handling the investigation of Hunter Biden’s computer laptop,” the Washington Times reported.

“The Times learned that Timothy Thibault, an assistant special agent in charge, was forced to leave his post according to two former FBI officials familiar with the situation."
Thibault had a track record of “political bias” while mishandling Trump investigations. “Former Special Agent Thibault was accused of displaying bias in his handling of politically sensitive investigations, including the criminal investigation of Hunter Biden’s laptop and FBI probes of former President Donald Trump."
“Whistleblowers alleged that Thibault concealed the partisan nature of evidence from FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Merrick Garland to secure their approval to open an investigation into former President Donald Trump,” the report added. “That investigation culminated in the FBI’s raid on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate earlier this month.”  Thibault was one of the lead agents for the FBI in the Mar-a-Lago raid.  
In late May, Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) sought “Justice Department records regarding the work history of a senior FBI official following revelations of his apparent political bias on social media channels.”

“Department guidelines require employees to avoid even the appearance of bias, which could undermine investigations or call into question the credibility of the department’s work,” the senator’s letter said. “However, Timothy Thibault, an assistant special agent in charge (ASAC) at the FBI’s Washington Field Office engaged with and amplified partisan content on social media, sometimes under the label of his official job title. Thibault is assigned to oversee public corruption matters, which are often highly sensitive, and involve political figures.”



“It has come to my attention that while serving in a highly sensitive role that includes threshold decision-making over which Federal public corruption matters are opened for investigation, Assistant Special Agent in Charge (‘ASAC’) at the Washington Field Office, Timothy Thibault, likely violated several federal regulations and Department guidelines designed to prevent political bias from infecting FBI matters, including the Attorney General Guidelines for Domestic FBI Operations and FBI social media policies. … ASAC Thibault has demonstrated a pattern of active public partisanship, such as using his official title for public partisan posts relating to his superiors and matters under the FBI’s purview, that is likely a violation of his ethical obligations as an FBI employee,” Grassley wrote in his letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland and FBI Director Chris Wray. Grassley cited politically charged content from Thibault’s LinkedIn profile, as well as partisan content on Twitter. The senator also wrote the Inspector General requesting an investigation into Thibault for “potential violations of rules and regulations designed to prevent political bias from infecting FBI matters.”  FBI Director Christopher Wray even said in Senate testimony that the FBI agent’s partisan social media posts and attempts to suppress information in the investigation into Hunter Biden’s business relationships were “deeply troubling.”

Thibault is far from the only politically biased FBI agent or Justice Department official directly implicated in an unprecedented raid on a former president’s home. The Washington Field Office has thus been highly involved in many of the most politically charged, high profile cases in recent U.S. history. The Real Clear Investigations piece raises some intriguing names involved in the recent, unprecedented raid on a former president that followers of the Russiagate scandal should be familiar with.

“An examination of the bureau agents involved in the Mar-a-Lago raid reveals other connections between them and FBI officials who played key roles in advancing the Russiagate hoax,” the Times writes. Jay Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in Justice’s national security division, who happens to be a Democratic National Committee donor, has been coordinating the Mar-a-Lago investigation with Thibault and Alan Kohler, who heads the FBI’s counterintelligence division. The critical thing to note about Bratt, is that he was a “resource of the Mueller investigation and worked directly with Andrew Weissman.” Russiagate followers will recall Andrew Weissman, nicknamed as ‘Mueller’s pit bull.”  Jay Bratt played a critical role in preparing the terrain at Mar-a-Lago in June for the FBI raid in August. His names are all over the redacted search warrant affidavit records.

Bratt, the top counterintelligence official at Justice, traveled to Mar-a-Lago in early June and personally inspected the storage facility while interacting with both Trump and one of his lawyers. Trump allowed the three FBI agents Bratt brought with him to open boxes in the storage room and look through them. They left with some documents. After leaving, Bratt made a request to Trump’s lawyer for increased security at the facility and asked to see surveillance footage from the security cameras. The lawyer complied with the requests.
Months went by before the Justice Department took the politically explosive step of sending FBI agents unannounced to Trump’s home, seizing documents, photos, and other items not just from the storage facility but from multiple rooms on the property, including the former president’s office.

Special Agent Thibault’s sudden departure at the FBI is a tacit admission that the Hunter Biden case and the Trump cases are fraught with political partisanship. There must be more than abrupt resignations if the rule of law is ever going to be restored in America.

Thats going to leave a mark

Oh, and before you launch into one of your all CAPS histrionic diatribes that the president can declassify. The actual issue is that there is no paper trails or witnesses proving he declassified them. You just cant say "I declassified them" without any sort of proof other than trying to CYA. Trumps dealing with people who take this stuff seriously, and I quote "This is the not ing around crew so get me something that looks like a print because this not ing around thing is about to go both ways".

Whats laughable is Trump himself signed into law extending federal punishment for this exact criminal act from one year to five years.
The criminal liar steps all over himself again.

Again, for the slower class, the president must go through a declassification procedure especially with the level of secrecy involved with the documents he took from the White House. They are not souvenirs but documents containing highly secured information. Just because you're a president, doesn't give you free reign over top secret documents to do with what you will. I can only imagine the histrionics the laughable right wing would be having if Obama did this. It's the law, not broke jokes demented fabricated reality.

• The search warrant served on former President Donald Trump has raised some novel legal questions involving national-security classification.

• If the federal government pursues legal action against Trump over document laws, one obvious defense for Trump might be that he declassified these documents before leaving office.

• Sitting presidents do have wide powers to declassify documents, but they are supposed to go through a detailed procedure to do so.

• This case is so unprecedented that experts urge caution before projecting how courts may respond to such an argument.

www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/11/could-trump-argue-declassified-documents/

Once again, I qualify my posts unlike Maga Morons who wait for Tucker Carlson to pose a hypothetical and then parrot it as truth.