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Post by theremedy on Jan 30, 2017 14:21:54 GMT -5
Oh but you did.. I wrote: "Right....some conservatives at some point said something negative about wikileaks so therefore no conservative can ever post something from wikileaks. Apparently some conservatives speak for ALL conservatives....who knew.... "
You wrote: "The wingnuts didn't just say 'something negative' about wikileaks ... they wanted the US gov't to label it a terrorist organization and be put on the terror watch list.
But hey ... no big deal ... just another spineless wingnut flip/flop. "Stalking never said he wanted the US govt to label it a terrorist organization. So to accuse Stalking of 'flip/flopping' means you are saying that other conservative spoke for Stalking. Surely even you can see that. WTF are you babbling on about now? I never said he did ... I pointed out that the past policies of the wingnuts were that wikileaks should be put on the terror watch list due to it's espionage activities against the US ... and that SB 'likes' that very same group in spite of those very same efforts meant to damage the US and undermine the safety of our military. Take a knee spanky ... you are just spouting nonsense. Ok then...so to whom were you referring to when you said 'just another spineless wingnut flip/flop? If it wasn't Stalking then who? No one else mentioned they like wikileaks in this thread up till that point, so who was 'flip/flopping' Can't wait for the spin....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 14:22:41 GMT -5
It tells you everything that you need to know about them that they *think* it's a ban on Muslims. Oh geeze ... now here comes the equivocating and blatant suck-ass ... regurgitating the latest echo chamber bullshit now that they've had a few days to try and create some ridiculous excuses to conflate the issue. The freaking OP uses that very term as it's description ... " Donald Trump’s recent ban on immigration from Muslim countries creates backlash" .... but now SB and other morons are going berserk to try backtrack your own posts. My gawd you wingnuts are a bunch of pathetic poltroons. Go run to those echo chambers for your next heaping helping of excrement to toss around these boards. Hurry up now ... move along ... don't want to keep your betters waiting.
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Post by backinblack on Jan 30, 2017 14:25:32 GMT -5
Oh but you did.. I wrote: "Right....some conservatives at some point said something negative about wikileaks so therefore no conservative can ever post something from wikileaks. Apparently some conservatives speak for ALL conservatives....who knew.... "
You wrote: "The wingnuts didn't just say 'something negative' about wikileaks ... they wanted the US gov't to label it a terrorist organization and be put on the terror watch list.
But hey ... no big deal ... just another spineless wingnut flip/flop. "Stalking never said he wanted the US govt to label it a terrorist organization. So to accuse Stalking of 'flip/flopping' means you are saying that other conservative spoke for Stalking. Surely even you can see that. WTF are you babbling on about now? I never said he did ... I pointed out that the past policies of the wingnuts were that wikileaks should be put on the terror watch list due to it's espionage activities against the US ... and that SB 'likes' that very same group in spite of those very same efforts meant to damage the US and undermine the safety of our military. Take a knee spanky ... you are just spouting nonsense. How'd you feel about WikiLeaks when they exposed our very own Secretary of State using a private server for Top Secret and Classified communications?
Boy! I bet that didn't "damage the US and undermine the safety of our military"......eye roll.
I think the FBI/CIA (those non-political-LOL agencies) worded it as: "her server was definitely hacked by Russia, China, and quite possibly Iran"
Was that OK for you?
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Post by StalkingButler on Jan 30, 2017 14:28:58 GMT -5
Well, you can believe the press or your own lying eyes (assuming that you read the text of the executive order.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 14:37:01 GMT -5
Well, you can believe the press or your own lying eyes (assuming that you read the text of the executive order.) I get it ... when you post that it's a ' ban' it's okay ... when someone argues against that policy then it's suddenly not a ' ban'. Freaking morons.
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Post by theremedy on Jan 30, 2017 14:58:01 GMT -5
Oh but you did.. I wrote: "Right....some conservatives at some point said something negative about wikileaks so therefore no conservative can ever post something from wikileaks. Apparently some conservatives speak for ALL conservatives....who knew.... "
You wrote: "The wingnuts didn't just say 'something negative' about wikileaks ... they wanted the US gov't to label it a terrorist organization and be put on the terror watch list.
But hey ... no big deal ... just another spineless wingnut flip/flop. "Stalking never said he wanted the US govt to label it a terrorist organization. So to accuse Stalking of 'flip/flopping' means you are saying that other conservative spoke for Stalking. Surely even you can see that. WTF are you babbling on about now? I never said he did ... I pointed out that the past policies of the wingnuts were that wikileaks should be put on the terror watch list due to it's espionage activities against the US ... and that SB 'likes' that very same group in spite of those very same efforts meant to damage the US and undermine the safety of our military. Take a knee spanky ... you are just spouting nonsense. Ok then...so to whom were you referring to when you said 'just another spineless wingnut flip/flop? If it wasn't Stalking then who? No one else mentioned they like wikileaks in this thread up till that point, so who was 'flip/flopping' Can't wait for the spin.... Read more: bdc-politics.freeforums.net/thread/964/ok?page=2#ixzz4XHDtsJR7
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 15:34:17 GMT -5
Just like old times huh... I see not a lot has changed.. Different board. SOS Lol
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 15:54:44 GMT -5
I guess ' calls' for a Muslim ban are offensive and unConstitutional ... but actually doing it ... meh, not so much Considering it's not ACTUALLY a muslim ban then you'd be right. India,Indonesia, Bangladesh, and Pakistan are the top 4 countries with the biggest Muslim population. People are not banned from coming to the US from those countries, so it's not a Muslim ban. Funny how Libs stand up and defend a religion that throws gays off of buildings and commits acid attacks against their own family members for "dishonoring" their families. Yet won't stand up against the 16 muslim countries that ban Jews from entering simply because they are Jews. Virtue signaling at its finest.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 16:02:57 GMT -5
I guess ' calls' for a Muslim ban are offensive and unConstitutional ... but actually doing it ... meh, not so much Considering it's not ACTUALLY a muslim ban then you'd be right. India,Indonesia, Bangladesh, and Pakistan are the top 4 countries with the biggest Muslim population. People are not banned from coming to the US from those countries, so it's not a Muslim ban. Funny how Libs stand up and defend a religion that throws gays off of buildings and commits acid attacks against their own family members for "dishonoring" their families. Yet won't stand up against the 16 muslim countries that ban Jews from entering simply because they are Jews. Virtue signaling at its finest. Funny how you whacko wingnuts keep trying to obfuscate the issue. If you prohibit people from muslim-majority countries from traveling to the US while fast tracking the admittance of every other religion from those same countries ... then it's a muslim ban, plain and simple. You can try and spray all the verbal deodorant you want to cover the stench but it's still a heaping pile of bullshit.
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 16:48:22 GMT -5
Funny how you whacko wingnuts keep trying to obfuscate the issue. If you prohibit people from muslim-majority countries from traveling to the US while fast tracking the admittance of every other religion from those same countries ... then it's a muslim ban, plain and simple. You can try and spray all the verbal deodorant you want to cover the stench but it's still a heaping pile of bullshit. Still not a Muslim ban.. The "legend" of Verbal Diarrhea
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 16:51:09 GMT -5
Funny how you whacko wingnuts keep trying to obfuscate the issue. If you prohibit people from muslim-majority countries from traveling to the US while fast tracking the admittance of every other religion from those same countries ... then it's a muslim ban, plain and simple. You can try and spray all the verbal deodorant you want to cover the stench but it's still a heaping pile of bullshit. Still not a Muslim ban.. The "legend" of Verbal Diarrhea Heh, heh, heh ... sure thing spanky ... Ya just gotta laugh out loud at the whacko wingnuts and their 'alternative facts'. Can't argue with a wingnut alternate reality built on such abject ignorance.
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Post by Mimi on Jan 30, 2017 17:11:22 GMT -5
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 17:20:44 GMT -5
DJT can say it isn't a Muslim ban all he wants. I don't buy it. He even posted in 2015 the call for a Muslim immigration ban. It's very easy to search his tweets and Facebook for the words "Muslim ban" DJT would mock Obama for using the term ISIL instead of ISIS.....maybe DJT should man up and call it what it is, a Muslim ban. He had no problem calling for a ban in 2015. www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigrationEven Guilliani said DJT specifically asked for a Muslim ban. You can change the name or pretend it is something else, but it is what it is. There's also another story here, about DJT calling for a Muslim immigration ban. www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/10/why-franklin-graham-says-donald-trump-is-right-about-stopping-muslim-immigration/?utm_term=.1c4a50d91caeIt's not a ban when all Muslims are not restricted from entering the US, plain and simple. The 7 countries are countries that Obama agreed where countries of concern. I personally would like to see a full Muslim ban which is why this EO leaves something to be desired for me. DJT may have called for a full Muslim ban but he stopped short of doing so. BHO imposed a ban on people from Iraq being allowed into the country for twice as long as DJT order and there wasn't a word from you Libs. It's so unbelievably hypocritical.
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Post by backinblack on Jan 30, 2017 17:22:29 GMT -5
Really?
What was it in 2011 when Barack Obama created it? And you know......the House and the Senate approved it?
You know, when Obama had it in place for 6 months?
I didn't see vag-hat-protesters back them when Obama did the exact same thing.
Hmmmm
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Post by Mimi on Jan 30, 2017 17:26:21 GMT -5
Really?
What was it in 2011 when Barack Obama created it? And you know......the House and the Senate approved it?
You know, when Obama had it in place for 6 months?
I didn't see vag-hat-protesters back them when Obama did the exact same thing.
Hmmmm
You do know that Obama's ban was not a total ban.
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Post by Mimi on Jan 30, 2017 17:32:51 GMT -5
DJT can say it isn't a Muslim ban all he wants. I don't buy it. He even posted in 2015 the call for a Muslim immigration ban. It's very easy to search his tweets and Facebook for the words "Muslim ban" DJT would mock Obama for using the term ISIL instead of ISIS.....maybe DJT should man up and call it what it is, a Muslim ban. He had no problem calling for a ban in 2015. www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigrationEven Guilliani said DJT specifically asked for a Muslim ban. You can change the name or pretend it is something else, but it is what it is. There's also another story here, about DJT calling for a Muslim immigration ban. www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/10/why-franklin-graham-says-donald-trump-is-right-about-stopping-muslim-immigration/?utm_term=.1c4a50d91caeIt's not a ban when all Muslims are not restricted from entering the US, plain and simple. The 7 countries are countries that Obama agreed where countries of concern. I personally would like to see a full Muslim ban which is why this EO leaves something to be desired for me. DJT may have called for a full Muslim ban but he stopped short of doing so. BHO imposed a ban on people from Iraq being allowed into the country for twice as long as DJT order and there wasn't a word from you Libs. It's so unbelievably hypocritical. I'm not a lib..... I did not vote for Hillary or Bernie. I don't vote for loons. As for when Obama did it, I didn't agree with it then either. Do realize that yesterday, thousands of people protested in the exact spot of the Marathon Bombing. I'm not afraid of Muslims. Meanwhile, while all the focus is on this... Our next school shooter or home-grown terrorist is plotting and planning.
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Post by backinblack on Jan 30, 2017 17:39:38 GMT -5
Really?
What was it in 2011 when Barack Obama created it? And you know......the House and the Senate approved it?
You know, when Obama had it in place for 6 months?
I didn't see vag-hat-protesters back them when Obama did the exact same thing.
Hmmmm
You do know that Obama's ban was not a total ban. I know exactly what it was.
Obama was the one that identified the 7 countries.
Currently there are 46 other countries where Muslims are majority. None of those are involved in this current 90-day action.
This is not a "Muslim ban", a "religious ban", or anything that is illegal or could ever be challenged.
The hysteria is funny and the "news is fake"
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 17:44:45 GMT -5
I'm not a lib..... I did not vote for Hillary or Bernie. I don't vote for loons. As for when Obama did it, I didn't agree with it then either. Do realize that yesterday, thousands of people protested in the exact spot of the Marathon Bombing. I'm not afraid of Muslims. Meanwhile, while all the focus is on this... Our next school shooter or home-grown terrorist is plotting and planning. My apologies then... At least You have stayed consistent on the subject then. You should be afraid of Muslims.. Especially ones like Linda Sarsour who advocate for sharia law here in the US and is a Hamas sympathizer as well as given the ISIS finger salute... Its very confusing that she would "lead" a women's march when she advocates for a system of laws that strips women of their rights and treat them no better than cattle. People like her see progressives as useful idiots and a means to her end. In the meantime there will be countless more Muslim perpetrated attacks around the world before one home grown terrorist attacks more stupid no gun areas..
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Post by Mimi on Jan 30, 2017 17:54:04 GMT -5
I'm not a lib..... I did not vote for Hillary or Bernie. I don't vote for loons. As for when Obama did it, I didn't agree with it then either. Do realize that yesterday, thousands of people protested in the exact spot of the Marathon Bombing. I'm not afraid of Muslims. Meanwhile, while all the focus is on this... Our next school shooter or home-grown terrorist is plotting and planning.
My apologies then...
At least You have stayed consistent on the subject then.
You should be afraid of Muslims.. Especially ones like Linda Sarsour who advocate for sharia law here in the US and is a Hamas sympathizer as well as given the ISIS finger salute... Its very confusing that she would "lead" a women's march when she advocates for a system of laws that strips women of their rights and treat them no better than cattle. People like her see progressives as useful idiots and a means to her end.
In the meantime there will be countless more Muslim perpetrated attacks around the world before one home grown terrorist attacks more stupid no gun areas..
I'm not afraid at all. I am not afraid at all of Sharia law taking over. Neither are any of those woman that marched, they march for their equality...I bet majority didn't even know who Linda Sarsour was or that she helped organize it. For majority it was a feel good thing, marching with their sisters and mothers. I didn't march, it was beautiful seeing the camaraderie. And same with the Pro-Life March...both were amazing. Trump is dangerous. I worry more about him than a terrorist attack. He'll do more danger, that a bombing.
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Post by Mimi on Jan 30, 2017 17:55:58 GMT -5
You do know that Obama's ban was not a total ban. I know exactly what it was.
Obama was the one that identified the 7 countries.
Currently there are 46 other countries where Muslims are majority. None of those are involved in this current 90-day action.
This is not a "Muslim ban", a "religious ban", or anything that is illegal or could ever be challenged.
The hysteria is funny and the "news is fake"
Why did Giuliani say Trump was calling for a Muslim ban? The #fakenews is everything coming from Trump
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 17:56:59 GMT -5
“The decisions made by that fool (Trump) will drag America and its supporters into a war against each other that will be sparked by the mujahedeen, who will take advantage of it to settle in,” wrote another jihadist, Omra Alfarouq, seemingly enthusiastic about the left’s efforts to divide America. He continued; “The confrontations with the blacks that started under the donkey Obama will repeat itself, but this time in a much broader way among the Americans. And the Muslims will exploit these confrontations to strike in the heart of the infidel country. ”We are at the end of times, and what times they are – the times of the oppressed mujahedeen on the face of the earth,” wrote another Islamist. “The wisdom of Allah will allow the mujahedeen and the oppressed to rise up and cut off the heads of Crusaders… and whoever supports them among those who falsely claim to be Muslim.”
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 17:58:34 GMT -5
My apologies then...
At least You have stayed consistent on the subject then.
You should be afraid of Muslims.. Especially ones like Linda Sarsour who advocate for sharia law here in the US and is a Hamas sympathizer as well as given the ISIS finger salute... Its very confusing that she would "lead" a women's march when she advocates for a system of laws that strips women of their rights and treat them no better than cattle. People like her see progressives as useful idiots and a means to her end.
In the meantime there will be countless more Muslim perpetrated attacks around the world before one home grown terrorist attacks more stupid no gun areas..
I'm not afraid at all. I am not afraid at all of Sharia law taking over. Neither are any of those woman that marched, they march for their equality...I bet majority didn't even know who Linda Sarsour was or that she helped organize it. For majority it was a feel good thing, marching with their sisters and mothers. I didn't march, it was beautiful seeing the camaraderie. And same with the Pro-Life March...both were amazing. Trump is dangerous. I worry more about him than a terrorist attack. He'll do more danger, that a bombing. They didn't know who Linda Sarsour was.. SHE SPOKE AT THE MARCH!! HOLY SHIT MAN
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Post by Mimi on Jan 30, 2017 18:03:10 GMT -5
"They didn't know who Linda Sarsour was.. SHE SPOKE AT THE MARCH!! HOLY SHIT MAN"
There were thousands of people there, most probably never even heard her speak. I know quite a few that went, they went for all different reasons. Some of them hated Trump, some marched for feminism, some marched just to march. You really can't bottle it up as a hate Trump march.
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 18:07:37 GMT -5
"They didn't know who Linda Sarsour was.. SHE SPOKE AT THE MARCH!! HOLY SHIT MAN" There were thousands of people there, most probably never even heard her speak. I know quite a few that went, they went for all different reasons. Some of them hated Trump, some marched for feminism, some marched just to march. You really can't bottle it up as a hate Trump march. They knew who she was.. You can't possibly think i'm that dumb. It was supposed to be a Hillary Victory Parade. But since she lost and they had already planned everything out they couldn't possibly waste the chance to Hate on Trump instead. George Soros Funded pity party is what it was.
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 18:18:26 GMT -5
"They didn't know who Linda Sarsour was.. SHE SPOKE AT THE MARCH!! HOLY SHIT MAN" There were thousands of people there, most probably never even heard her speak. I know quite a few that went, they went for all different reasons. Some of them hated Trump, some marched for feminism, some marched just to march. You really can't bottle it up as a hate Trump march. It was also disgusting to see women and men putting on the single biggest symbol of oppression in the Hijab. Still think people didn't know who Linda Sarsour was..
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Post by StalkingButler on Jan 30, 2017 18:27:27 GMT -5
Just like old times huh... I see not a lot has changed.. Different board. SOS Lol Welcome, thedonald, I hope that you're not too busy fundamentally transforming the nation to do some regular posting here. Oh wait, that was the last guy!
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 18:28:13 GMT -5
I know exactly what it was.
Obama was the one that identified the 7 countries.
Currently there are 46 other countries where Muslims are majority. None of those are involved in this current 90-day action.
This is not a "Muslim ban", a "religious ban", or anything that is illegal or could ever be challenged.
The hysteria is funny and the "news is fake"
Yet you voted for Obama twice. No amount of showering could ever make me feel clean voting for Obama once, let alone twice.
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Post by thedonald on Jan 30, 2017 18:30:06 GMT -5
Just like old times huh... I see not a lot has changed.. Different board. SOS Lol Welcome, thedonald, I hope that you're not too busy fundamentally transforming the nation to do some regular posting here. Oh wait, that was the last guy! Thanks for the welcome SB. I'll try to post as regularly as i can but that's easier said than done.
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Post by StalkingButler on Jan 30, 2017 18:41:20 GMT -5
Welcome, thedonald, I hope that you're not too busy fundamentally transforming the nation to do some regular posting here. Oh wait, that was the last guy! Thanks for the welcome SB. I'll try to post as regularly as i can but that's easier said than done. What with all those executive orders to execute and all those regulations to slash I'm surprised that you have time to post at all!
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Post by Mimi on Jan 30, 2017 19:04:42 GMT -5
"They didn't know who Linda Sarsour was.. SHE SPOKE AT THE MARCH!! HOLY SHIT MAN" There were thousands of people there, most probably never even heard her speak. I know quite a few that went, they went for all different reasons. Some of them hated Trump, some marched for feminism, some marched just to march. You really can't bottle it up as a hate Trump march. They knew who she was.. You can't possibly think i'm that dumb. It was supposed to be a Hillary Victory Parade. But since she lost and they had already planned everything out they couldn't possibly waste the chance to Hate on Trump instead. George Soros Funded pity party is what it was. They knew who she was.. You can't possibly think i'm that dumb.
I'm telling you from what I know from the people and friends I spoke to.
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