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Post by theremedy on Nov 29, 2017 14:06:32 GMT -5
I already answered you question in the other thread. But you know that You answered a question that I never asked in another thread? Heh, heh, heh ... sure thing, dipstick. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!! You really are a flipping moron. More lies from you. We already had the Clinton perjury discussion. Stop lying already.
I would love to continue down this rabbit hole you're dragging me into but every once in a while I actually have to do some work at my job. Carry on you twat!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 17:43:23 GMT -5
You answered a question that I never asked in another thread? Heh, heh, heh ... sure thing, dipstick. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!! You really are a flipping moron. More lies from you. We already had the Clinton perjury discussion. Stop lying already.
I would love to continue down this rabbit hole you're dragging me into but every once in a while I actually have to do some work at my job. Carry on you twat!
So you were wrong then ... which means you're ass backwards wrong again in this thread ... got it ... thanks.
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Post by theremedy on Nov 29, 2017 17:49:20 GMT -5
More lies from you. We already had the Clinton perjury discussion. Stop lying already.
I would love to continue down this rabbit hole you're dragging me into but every once in a while I actually have to do some work at my job. Carry on you twat!
So you were wrong then ... which means you're ass backwards wrong again in this thread ... got it ... thanks. If it makes you feel better about yourself think whatever you like.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 19:47:15 GMT -5
It's got nothing to do with me and everything to do with you refusing to answer a direct question (while biting everyone else's ass if they don't answer yours) and insisting that you've already answered a question that I have never previously asked.
Since your position in that other thread was laughably uninformed and downright ignorant and you insist that is your 'answer' ... then you have proven to be an ideological imbecile.
Thanks for playing ... I'm sure your whacko wingnuts betters appreciate your lack of self-respect and inability to think for yourself.
Congrats ... at least someone appreciates morons.
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Post by theremedy on Nov 29, 2017 19:58:52 GMT -5
It's got nothing to do with me and everything to do with you refusing to answer a direct question (while biting everyone else's ass if they don't answer yours) and insisting that you've already answered a question that I have never previously asked. Since your position in that other thread was laughably uninformed and downright ignorant and you insist that is your 'answer' ... then you have proven to be an ideological imbecile. Thanks for playing ... I'm sure your whacko wingnuts betters appreciate your lack of self-respect and inability to think for yourself. Congrats ... at least someone appreciates morons. Asked and answered in another thread. But again...you know this. Do you feel better being able to call me names? Seems like it must given how much you do it.
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Post by Donald J Putin on Nov 30, 2017 18:14:16 GMT -5
Nope, my statements have been consistent all through out. If I would have said " when they got him elected" then you'd have a point, but I didn't and you are wrong again. I said they helped him get elected. I have said all along, Trump colluded with Russia, they helped him win, it definitely had an effect, but it wasn't the only reason why he won. As I said its one of many reasons why he won. He still would have won without the help, that doesn't mean Russia didn't help OR that the help didn't work. Of course it had an effect- this stuff always does how can it not. But the electoral college wasn't all that close and Trump won some key battle ground states by decent margins. I can't measure the full vote tally impact of the Russian collusion, but it is my opinion that even without the help from the Russians Trump would have still won because he did win the battleground states by a decent margin. Now if he would have only barely won the electoral college and barely won the key states then i would have a different opinion. Like i said this is why I don't deal with you and try to ignore you for the most part. The Village idiot is dumb as rocks, but at least we debate the issues. You troll, and nit pick over a couple words that I write and you are completely wrong about it too. Even the Village Idiot says it, you add nothing, and when the Village idiot is scoring points off of you you know you've hit rock bottom. You can have the last word because this is stupid and I'm tired of showing you how stupid your posts are. If you think Hillary wouldn't have won anyway then the Russians DIDN'T help Trump win. You believe Trump would have won REGARDLESS of any Russian interference. Therefore they didn't help him win. I get you need to keep arguing to save face for not being consistent. But come on...enough is enough. Admit you f'd up and move on. Wrong Again. This isn't an all or nothing situation. It's not either the Russian collusion won Trump the election or it had no affect at all. Laughable logic right there... The Russian collusion helped Trump and gave him votes, but he still would have won without it as he won battle ground states by a good margin. That doesn't negate the benefit he received from Russian collusion?? This isn't that complicated why are you having such a hard time with it?
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Post by theremedy on Nov 30, 2017 18:29:36 GMT -5
If you think Hillary wouldn't have won anyway then the Russians DIDN'T help Trump win. You believe Trump would have won REGARDLESS of any Russian interference. Therefore they didn't help him win. I get you need to keep arguing to save face for not being consistent. But come on...enough is enough. Admit you f'd up and move on. Wrong Again. This isn't an all or nothing situation. It's not either the Russian collusion won Trump the election or it had no affect at all. Laughable logic right there... The Russian collusion helped Trump and gave him votes, but he still would have won without it as he won battle ground states by a good margin. That doesn't negate the benefit he received from Russian collusion?? This isn't that complicated why are you having such a hard time with it? Are you drunk? Did you forget you just wrote the following... ‘ The Russian collusion helped Trump and gave him votes, but he still would have won without it as he won battle ground states by a good margin.’So, the logic is that if he ‘still would have won without it’ (your words) then any ‘Russian collusion didn’t in fact help him. Because as you just posted....’he still would have won without it’
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Post by Donald J Putin on Nov 30, 2017 19:04:56 GMT -5
Wrong Again. This isn't an all or nothing situation. It's not either the Russian collusion won Trump the election or it had no affect at all. Laughable logic right there... The Russian collusion helped Trump and gave him votes, but he still would have won without it as he won battle ground states by a good margin. That doesn't negate the benefit he received from Russian collusion?? This isn't that complicated why are you having such a hard time with it? Are you drunk? Did you forget you just wrote the following... ‘ The Russian collusion helped Trump and gave him votes, but he still would have won without it as he won battle ground states by a good margin.’So, the logic is that if he ‘still would have won without it’ (your words) then any ‘Russian collusion didn’t in fact help him. Because as you just posted....’he still would have won without it’ My lord, Simple logic is hard for you I guess. You can't conceivably understand that there were many factors as to why Trump won the election? -Tom Brady endorsed Trump, did it help him sure. Would he won the race without his endorsement yep. SO according to you Brady's endorsement didn't help Trump. -Elizabeth Warren Endorsed Walsh for mayor, did it help? 100% it did, would he still have won the race without that endorsement? Yes. So according to you Warren's endorsement didn't help at all. -James Comey re-oppening the email investigation 1 week before the election, did it help Trump absolutely, would he have won the election without that happening? Probably. But according to your infinite wisdom Comey re-opening the email investigation had no effect. -Russia helped Trump get elected, would he have won the election without Russia's help? Yes. But according to you Russian collusion didn't help Trump??? Wow you sound really stupid right now. You have dug yourself into a hole and don't know how to get out of it.
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Post by theremedy on Dec 1, 2017 7:34:54 GMT -5
Are you drunk? Did you forget you just wrote the following... ‘ The Russian collusion helped Trump and gave him votes, but he still would have won without it as he won battle ground states by a good margin.’So, the logic is that if he ‘still would have won without it’ (your words) then any ‘Russian collusion didn’t in fact help him. Because as you just posted....’he still would have won without it’ My lord, Simple logic is hard for you I guess. You can't conceivably understand that there were many factors as to why Trump won the election? -Tom Brady endorsed Trump, did it help him sure. Would he won the race without his endorsement yep. SO according to you Brady's endorsement didn't help Trump. -Elizabeth Warren Endorsed Walsh for mayor, did it help? 100% it did, would he still have won the race without that endorsement? Yes. So according to you Warren's endorsement didn't help at all. -James Comey re-oppening the email investigation 1 week before the election, did it help Trump absolutely, would he have won the election without that happening? Probably. But according to your infinite wisdom Comey re-opening the email investigation had no effect. -Russia helped Trump get elected, would he have won the election without Russia's help? Yes. But according to you Russian collusion didn't help Trump??? Wow you sound really stupid right now. You have dug yourself into a hole and don't know how to get out of it. No, Brady's endorsement in no way helped Trump win. You do realize the only people who give two sh!ts about Brady are from New England. Hillary won all NE states. So no...Brady's endorsement did nothing. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth and got called on it. Time for you to be a grown-up and accept it and move on
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Post by Donald J Putin on Dec 1, 2017 9:24:53 GMT -5
Wow you have a serious problem admitting when you're wrong, especially when you look so stupid too.
Now you have moved on to making stuff up.
Brady's endorsement helped Trump. NH was a Battleground state. People there definitely liked Brady's endorsement. Just because Brady's endorsement didn't put him over the top and cause Trump to win the state doesn't mean that it didn't have a positive effect for Trump. This is where you whole argument falls apart.
The same for Warren's endorsement for Mayor Walsh, and Comey re-opening the email investigation. According to your insane logic none of those things helped their candidate.
There are many factors as to why somebody wins or loses an election and ALL those factors HELP the candidate. According to you if a single event doesn't put the candidate over the top then it had to effect on the outcome??? Stupidity.
Here's the last point to completely shut you up and end this:
Roy Moore might still win Alabama, whether he wins or loses there is no doubt that the sex scandal has hurt his candidacy and helps Doug Jones. Whether or not Moore wins the election it is undeniable that the sex scandal has helped Doug Jones.
According to the logic of remedy if Moore wins the election then the sex scandal didn't help Doug Jones at all, when everyone else knows that it did help Jones, just not enough to win him the election.
Checkmate. I know you hate admitting when your wrong, but it's over.
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Post by theremedy on Dec 1, 2017 9:31:09 GMT -5
Wow you have a serious problem admitting when you're wrong, especially when you look so stupid too. Now you have moved on to making stuff up. Brady's endorsement helped Trump. NH was a Battleground state. People there definitely liked Brady's endorsement. Just because Brady's endorsement didn't put him over the top and cause Trump to win the state doesn't mean that it didn't have a positive effect for Trump. This is where you whole argument falls apart. The same for Warren's endorsement for Mayor Walsh, and Comey re-opening the email investigation. According to your insane logic none of those things helped their candidate. There are many factors as to why somebody wins or loses an election and ALL those factors HELP the candidate. According to you if a single event doesn't put the candidate over the top then it had to effect on the outcome??? Stupidity. Here's the last point to completely shut you up and end this: Roy Moore might still win Alabama, whether he wins or loses there is no doubt that the sex scandal has hurt his candidacy and helps Doug Jones. Whether or not Moore wins the election it is undeniable that the sex scandal has helped Doug Jones. According to the logic of remedy if Moore wins the election then the sex scandal didn't help Doug Jones at all, when everyone else knows that it did help Jones, just not enough to win him the election. Checkmate. I know you hate admitting when your wrong, but it's over. hahaha...I see, so Trump lost those states yet somehow Brady 'helped' him. Got it...weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Post by Donald J Putin on Dec 1, 2017 9:55:11 GMT -5
Wow you have a serious problem admitting when you're wrong, especially when you look so stupid too. Now you have moved on to making stuff up. Brady's endorsement helped Trump. NH was a Battleground state. People there definitely liked Brady's endorsement. Just because Brady's endorsement didn't put him over the top and cause Trump to win the state doesn't mean that it didn't have a positive effect for Trump. This is where you whole argument falls apart. The same for Warren's endorsement for Mayor Walsh, and Comey re-opening the email investigation. According to your insane logic none of those things helped their candidate. There are many factors as to why somebody wins or loses an election and ALL those factors HELP the candidate. According to you if a single event doesn't put the candidate over the top then it had to effect on the outcome??? Stupidity. Here's the last point to completely shut you up and end this: Roy Moore might still win Alabama, whether he wins or loses there is no doubt that the sex scandal has hurt his candidacy and helps Doug Jones. Whether or not Moore wins the election it is undeniable that the sex scandal has helped Doug Jones. According to the logic of remedy if Moore wins the election then the sex scandal didn't help Doug Jones at all, when everyone else knows that it did help Jones, just not enough to win him the election. Checkmate. I know you hate admitting when your wrong, but it's over. hahaha...I see, so Trump lost those states yet somehow Brady 'helped' him. Got it...weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Brady's endorsement helped Trump just not enough for him to win NH, and we are not here to debate the effectiveness of endorsements either. You still haven't answered my question either, because you can't. Roy Moore might still win Alabama, whether he wins or loses there is no doubt that the sex scandal has hurt his candidacy and helps Doug Jones. Whether or not Moore wins the election it is undeniable that the sex scandal has helped Doug Jones. According to the flawed logic of remedy if Moore wins the election then the sex scandal didn't help Doug Jones at all. Clearly we can see how this sex scandal has helped Doug Jones, but if Moore still wins then using Remedy's logic the sex scandal the sex scandal didn't help Jones at all. If Moore wins the sex scandal helped Jones, but not enough to win the election. The same way Brady's endorsement helped Trump. The same way Russian collusion helped Trump. You have dug yourself into a big hole and aren't man enough to admit fault to get out of the hole.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2017 10:06:10 GMT -5
Moore led by as much as 20 pts before news of his pedophilia predilection broke and now the race is much tighter and in some polls within the margin of error of 2-3 pts.
Jones might not win but that doesn't change the fact that the negative news coverage of Moore contributed to a now tight race.
Remdial wants everyone to believe that the statistical anomaly of a Dem being so close in a state they haven't been competitive in for more than 40 yrs has nothing to do with release of the Washington Post story ... he thinks stuff just happens.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!
The same thing happened in the PotUS election ... HRC was up by an average of 7-10 pts in Oct before the combination of the Russian hacked emails being released and the Comey letter news broke.
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Post by Donald J Putin on Dec 1, 2017 10:35:36 GMT -5
Yeah His logic is bass ackward.
He got in over his head and didn't want to admit he was wrong so I guess he just decided to go down with the ship.
Whatever he's got no leg to stand on now, and he look's even stupider.
Mark Twain has a great quote to sum this up:
“It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt”
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Post by theremedy on Dec 1, 2017 10:42:53 GMT -5
hahaha...I see, so Trump lost those states yet somehow Brady 'helped' him. Got it...weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Brady's endorsement helped Trump just not enough for him to win NH, and we are not here to debate the effectiveness of endorsements either. You still haven't answered my question either, because you can't. Roy Moore might still win Alabama, whether he wins or loses there is no doubt that the sex scandal has hurt his candidacy and helps Doug Jones. Whether or not Moore wins the election it is undeniable that the sex scandal has helped Doug Jones. According to the flawed logic of remedy if Moore wins the election then the sex scandal didn't help Doug Jones at all. Clearly we can see how this sex scandal has helped Doug Jones, but if Moore still wins then using Remedy's logic the sex scandal the sex scandal didn't help Jones at all. If Moore wins the sex scandal helped Jones, but not enough to win the election. The same way Brady's endorsement helped Trump. The same way Russian collusion helped Trump. You have dug yourself into a big hole and aren't man enough to admit fault to get out of the hole. What metric do you have that proves Brady 'helped' Trump? The metric I have that shows Brady didn't help is Hillary winning all of the NE states...the only area on earth where people care about Brady. Because let's be honest...he's hated in every other state.
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Post by Donald J putin on Dec 1, 2017 11:33:36 GMT -5
Brady's endorsement helped Trump just not enough for him to win NH, and we are not here to debate the effectiveness of endorsements either. You still haven't answered my question either, because you can't. Roy Moore might still win Alabama, whether he wins or loses there is no doubt that the sex scandal has hurt his candidacy and helps Doug Jones. Whether or not Moore wins the election it is undeniable that the sex scandal has helped Doug Jones. According to the flawed logic of remedy if Moore wins the election then the sex scandal didn't help Doug Jones at all. Clearly we can see how this sex scandal has helped Doug Jones, but if Moore still wins then using Remedy's logic the sex scandal the sex scandal didn't help Jones at all. If Moore wins the sex scandal helped Jones, but not enough to win the election. The same way Brady's endorsement helped Trump. The same way Russian collusion helped Trump. You have dug yourself into a big hole and aren't man enough to admit fault to get out of the hole. What metric do you have that proves Brady 'helped' Trump? The metric I have that shows Brady didn't help is Hillary winning all of the NE states...the only area on earth where people care about Brady. Because let's be honest...he's hated in every other state.
That's already been explained. Why don't you explain the Roy Moore situation, because according to your flawed logic if Roy Moore wins than the sex scandal didn't help Jones at all... When everyone on the whole planet knows the opposite. Like i said this isn't that complicated why are you having such a hard time with it??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2017 11:44:52 GMT -5
He's not having a 'hard time' with it ... I don't think even he is that stupid ... he's just being stubborn and willfully ignorant.
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Post by theremedy on Dec 1, 2017 12:50:26 GMT -5
What metric do you have that proves Brady 'helped' Trump? The metric I have that shows Brady didn't help is Hillary winning all of the NE states...the only area on earth where people care about Brady. Because let's be honest...he's hated in every other state.
That's already been explained. Why don't you explain the Roy Moore situation, because according to your flawed logic if Roy Moore wins than the sex scandal didn't help Jones at all... When everyone on the whole planet knows the opposite. Like i said this isn't that complicated why are you having such a hard time with it?? If Moore wins then what...the sex scandal helped Jones lose a little less??? Oh yippee...I guess he can put that on his resume for future work. My lord
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Post by StalkingButler on Dec 1, 2017 13:06:27 GMT -5
If Moore wins it proves that the voters of Alabama don't believe the charges that have been made. They're not making themselves appear to be all that credible at the moment so there's a very good chance that he'll win.
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Post by Donald J putin on Dec 1, 2017 14:21:43 GMT -5
That's already been explained. Why don't you explain the Roy Moore situation, because according to your flawed logic if Roy Moore wins than the sex scandal didn't help Jones at all... When everyone on the whole planet knows the opposite. Like i said this isn't that complicated why are you having such a hard time with it?? If Moore wins then what...the sex scandal helped Jones lose a little less??? Oh yippee...I guess he can put that on his resume for future work. My lord Hmm so now you're trying to change your story.- It's not like you had any other choice though. The issue you have denied this whole time is exactly what you just admitted to: the sex scandal helped Jones lose a little less. The Brady endorsement helped Trump lose a little less. Russian collusion helped Trump win a little more. It's simple. At least you finally admitted it, next time don't drag it out so long it makes you look childish.
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Post by theremedy on Dec 1, 2017 14:28:15 GMT -5
If Moore wins then what...the sex scandal helped Jones lose a little less??? Oh yippee...I guess he can put that on his resume for future work. My lord Hmm so now you're trying to change your story.- It's not like you had any other choice though. The issue you have denied this whole time is exactly what you just admitted to: the sex scandal helped Jones lose a little less. The Brady endorsement helped Trump lose a little less. Russian collusion helped Trump win a little more. It's simple. At least you finally admitted it, next time don't drag it out so long it makes you look childish. No story changed. It's called being facetious. My lord....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2017 16:35:44 GMT -5
If Moore wins it proves that the voters of Alabama don't believe the charges that have been made. They're not making themselves appear to be all that credible at the moment so there's a very good chance that he'll win. Yep, all the sanctimonious bible thumper has to do is continue to lie and deny and the whacko wingnut kemosabes and hypocrites will continue to believe him over the half-dozen independent and yet comparable accounts of his accusers and mounds corroborating evidence. The whacko wingnuts love their pedophiles ....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2017 18:15:13 GMT -5
If Moore wins it proves that the voters of Alabama don't believe the charges that have been made. They're not making themselves appear to be all that credible at the moment so there's a very good chance that he'll win. Not credible at the moment? They voted for Trump. They haven't been credible for a couple of years!
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Post by StalkingButler on Dec 1, 2017 21:19:41 GMT -5
The accusers Billy, the accusers.
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Post by Donald J Putin on Dec 2, 2017 1:32:58 GMT -5
Hmm so now you're trying to change your story.- It's not like you had any other choice though. The issue you have denied this whole time is exactly what you just admitted to: the sex scandal helped Jones lose a little less. The Brady endorsement helped Trump lose a little less. Russian collusion helped Trump win a little more. It's simple. At least you finally admitted it, next time don't drag it out so long it makes you look childish. No story changed. It's called being facetious. My lord.... Facetious? AHAHAH!!! I guess that was your attempt to bow out gracefully. It would have been a lot easier and a lot less embarrassing for you if you would have just gave it up yesterday, I guess you are a slow learner though. Just like your logic. Everyone makes mistakes the important thing is did you learn something from it?? For the future remember what happened here today. You got tied up in a debate with people that are just out of your league. You should just stick to debating the Village Idiot as he is more on your level, Angry, Bill, and myself are just a little too advanced for you. Keep practicing and when you think you're ready let one of us know and we will see if you had any improvement. Perhaps you could as Butler for some help?? Just a suggestion. Anyway, Good luck, I hope it works out for you and I hope you learned something today.
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Post by Donald J putin on Dec 2, 2017 1:39:07 GMT -5
The accusers Billy, the accusers. Do you find it odd that Moore's co-workers knew he dated underage girls?? DO you find it odd that the 30 something Moore was banned from a mall because he was acting inappropriate towards young girls?? Do you find it odd that the 30 something Moore was banned from highschool football games because he was acting inappropriate towards the girls?? I guess that's just normal behavior for republicans so you didn't realize the seriousness of it.
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Post by StalkingButler on Dec 2, 2017 6:11:09 GMT -5
I find many things odd. For example, it's very odd that Gloria Alred won't allow a key piece of evidence to be independently examined or that a different accuser has a brother that was convicted by the judge and can't produce any other witnesses to her accusations. Very odd.
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Post by theremedy on Dec 2, 2017 9:38:25 GMT -5
No story changed. It's called being facetious. My lord.... Facetious? AHAHAH!!! I guess that was your attempt to bow out gracefully. It would have been a lot easier and a lot less embarrassing for you if you would have just gave it up yesterday, I guess you are a slow learner though. Just like your logic. Everyone makes mistakes the important thing is did you learn something from it?? For the future remember what happened here today. You got tied up in a debate with people that are just out of your league. You should just stick to debating the Village Idiot as he is more on your level, Angry, Bill, and myself are just a little too advanced for you. Keep practicing and when you think you're ready let one of us know and we will see if you had any improvement. Perhaps you could as Butler for some help?? Just a suggestion. Anyway, Good luck, I hope it works out for you and I hope you learned something today. Bow out? Do you not know what facetious means? Wow....I would say I expected more from you but that would be a lie. Carry on
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 13:50:28 GMT -5
Today is the deadline for the Traitor-in-Chief to implement the Russian sanctions passed overwhelmingly by Congress last year. Why won't the Racist-in-Chief stand up to Putin and Russian breach of US sovereignty? Is this what wingnut asskissers thinks will MAGA ... allow foreign countries to influence our elections without consequence. Why doesn't the Coward-in-Chief follow the law? “But so far,” Coons complained to reporters, “the president has not used tools the Senate gave him, 98 to 2, to send a clear and unmistakable sign to Vladimir Putin and Russia” about the consequences for meddling in other countries’ elections.
While Trump has resisted the conclusion reached by multiple U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to assist his campaign, some in his administration acknowledge that the Kremlin is preparing to attempt to replicate its success.
White House national security adviser H.R. McMaster publicly acknowledged last month that Russia is showing signs of trying to upend this May’s Mexican election, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions testified in November that preventing Russian disruption of the 2018 midterm elections is an “important” goal.
www.politico.com/story/2018/01/28/trump-russia-sanctions-deadline-373106
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 18:20:23 GMT -5
The accusers Billy, the accusers. It's all mute. He lost despite your prediction of a win. Go figure.
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