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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 13:58:43 GMT -5
Republican's didn't vote at all when it came to the Affordable Care Act? WTF ... there ya go again ... proving you're too stupid to answer a direct question about your accusations of obstruction. The wingnuts constantly filibustered the ACA ... despite having dozens of their own amendments added to the bill ... and each time it was overridden I'll ask again since you refuse to answer: How is not voting for a particular bill 'obstructing'? Well, if they won't vote for a particular bill then that bill can't pass, right? To block, get in the way of, prevent, hinder, deliberately make something difficult. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 14:12:44 GMT -5
WTF ... there ya go again ... proving you're too stupid to answer a direct question about your accusations of obstruction. The wingnuts constantly filibustered the ACA ... despite having dozens of their own amendments added to the bill ... and each time it was overridden I'll ask again since you refuse to answer: How is not voting for a particular bill 'obstructing'? Well, if they won't vote for a particular bill then that bill can't pass, right? To block, get in the way of, prevent, hinder, deliberately make something difficult. So you're saying that every member of congress must vote in favor of a bill put out by the majority, else it's obstruction ... got it. Obviously you are completely ignorant of how our system of gov't works and exactly why the Founding Fathers set it up that way ... yet here you are proudly displaying that ignorance and using it as the basis for a response no less. Apparently you just get your panties in a bunch because the Dems won't vote they way you want ... either they support everything the majority does else they're 'obstructionists' Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Sounds like you really don't like our form of gov't, comrade ... maybe Russia is more to your liking. The Duma doesn't dare vote against Putin. |
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Post by StalkingButler on Jan 22, 2018 14:22:11 GMT -5
If only...
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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 14:22:15 GMT -5
Well, if they won't vote for a particular bill then that bill can't pass, right? To block, get in the way of, prevent, hinder, deliberately make something difficult. So you're saying that every member of congress must vote in favor of a bill put out by the majority, else it's obstruction ... got it. Obviously you are completely ignorant of how our system of gov't works and exactly why the Founding Fathers set it up that way ... yet here you are proudly displaying that ignorance and using it as the basis for a response no less. Apparently you just get your panties in a bunch because the Dems won't vote they way you want ... either they support everything the majority does else they're 'obstructionists' Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Sounds like you really don't like our form of gov't, comrade ... maybe Russia is more to your liking. The Duma doesn't dare vote against Putin. Not as a general rule no I don't think that. But in the case of trying to keep the govt from shutting down I do feel they were obstructing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 14:30:03 GMT -5
So you're saying that every member of congress must vote in favor of a bill put out by the majority, else it's obstruction ... got it. Obviously you are completely ignorant of how our system of gov't works and exactly why the Founding Fathers set it up that way ... yet here you are proudly displaying that ignorance and using it as the basis for a response no less. Apparently you just get your panties in a bunch because the Dems won't vote they way you want ... either they support everything the majority does else they're 'obstructionists' Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Sounds like you really don't like our form of gov't, comrade ... maybe Russia is more to your liking. The Duma doesn't dare vote against Putin. Not as a general rule no I don't think that. But in the case of trying to keep the govt from shutting down I do feel they were obstructing. So if the majority fills a CR with all sorts of pork, crony deals and items unrelated to funding gov't, the minority has to vote for it regardless, else they're simply 'obstructing'? |
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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 14:31:20 GMT -5
Not as a general rule no I don't think that. But in the case of trying to keep the govt from shutting down I do feel they were obstructing. So if the majority fills a CR with all sorts of pork, crony deals and items unrelated to funding gov't, the minority has to vote for it regardless, else they're simply 'obstructing'? You mean like Dems wanting DACA in the funding bill??? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 14:34:42 GMT -5
So if the majority fills a CR with all sorts of pork, crony deals and items unrelated to funding gov't, the minority has to vote for it regardless, else they're simply 'obstructing'? You mean like Dems wanting DACA in the funding bill??? According to your 'logic' ... the wingnuts are the ones obstructing by not agreeing to that provision. |
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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 14:39:34 GMT -5
You mean like Dems wanting DACA in the funding bill??? According to your 'logic' ... the wingnuts are the ones obstructing by not agreeing to that provision. Wrong...DACA doesn't belong in a funding bill. They wanted it in there and wouldn't vote for it otherwise. They knew a vote couldn't go through with DACA in there which is why they pushed for it. They were playing politics. But you know that. They were obstructing but wanting something in the bill that didn't belong. It's not a black and white world 12angry. I know you want it to be but it ain't. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 14:59:26 GMT -5
According to your 'logic' ... the wingnuts are the ones obstructing by not agreeing to that provision. Wrong...DACA doesn't belong in a funding bill. They wanted it in there and wouldn't vote for it otherwise. They knew a vote couldn't go through with DACA in there which is why they pushed for it. They were playing politics. But you know that. They were obstructing but wanting something in the bill that didn't belong. It's not a black and white world 12angry. I know you want it to be but it ain't. Wrong !!! DACA is overwhelmingly supported by voters and has enough votes to pass Congress ... but the wingnut leaders refuse to put it to a vote. The CR would've passed Congress with DACA ... and in a much more bipartisan way than almost any other piece of legislation recently. The wingnut leadership refuses to work in a bipartisan manner and that is why the Dems voted the way they did. |
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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 15:03:26 GMT -5
Wrong...DACA doesn't belong in a funding bill. They wanted it in there and wouldn't vote for it otherwise. They knew a vote couldn't go through with DACA in there which is why they pushed for it. They were playing politics. But you know that. They were obstructing but wanting something in the bill that didn't belong. It's not a black and white world 12angry. I know you want it to be but it ain't. Wrong !!! DACA is overwhelmingly supported by voters and has enough votes to pass Congress ... but the wingnut leaders refuse to put it to a vote. The CR would've passed Congress with DACA ... and in a much more bipartisan way than almost any other piece of legislation recently. The wingnut leadership refuses to work in a bipartisan manner and that is why the Dems voted the way they did. How does DACA belong in a funding bill to keep govt running? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:11:55 GMT -5
Wrong !!! DACA is overwhelmingly supported by voters and has enough votes to pass Congress ... but the wingnut leaders refuse to put it to a vote. The CR would've passed Congress with DACA ... and in a much more bipartisan way than almost any other piece of legislation recently. The wingnut leadership refuses to work in a bipartisan manner and that is why the Dems voted the way they did. How does DACA belong in a funding bill to keep govt running? It's called negotiation, spanky ... and it is the way ALL legislation is written. If the majority needs votes from the minority to pass their bill, then they need to give the minority something they want to get their votes. Don't forget ... the wingnuts control gov't and this is the FIFTH CR they've pushed thru in just the first four months of the fiscal year. They are causing these crises themselves and they continue to rely on the Dems to keep bailing them out. You can't expect wingnuts to keep getting what they want without some reciprocation ... that's just ideological ignorance. |
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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 15:15:02 GMT -5
How does DACA belong in a funding bill to keep govt running? It's called negotiation, spanky ... and it is the way ALL legislation is written. If the majority needs votes from the minority to pass their bill, then they need to give the minority something they want to get their votes. Don't forget ... the wingnuts control gov't and this is the FIFTH CR they've pushed thru in just the first four months of the fiscal year. They are causing these crises themselves and need the Dems to keep bailing them out. You can't expect wingnuts to keep getting what they want without some reciprocation ... that's just ideological ignorance. hahaha...please. The Dems are playing politics. Both sides have always played games. Stop your nonsense |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:20:08 GMT -5
Oh geeze ... there you go all stupid again.
Hey MORON ... I've said from the beginning this is how ALL legislation get's written ... negotiation, give and take.
You're the idiot who lives in your alternate reality ... where you believe the sausage factory will suddenly produce nothing but filet mignon.
If you're too stupid to recognize that the Founding Fathers created this system for a reason then it's not worth arguing ... you'll ultimately just revert to your childish 'neener' retorts anyway.
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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 15:22:21 GMT -5
Oh geeze ... there you go all stupid again. Hey MORON ... I've said from the beginning this is how ALL legislation get's written ... negotiation, give and take. You're the idiot who lives in your alternate reality ... where you believe the sausage factory will suddenly produce nothing but filet mignon. If you're too stupid to recognize that the Founding Fathers created this system for a reason then it's not worth arguing ... you'll ultimately just revert to your childish 'neener' retorts anyway. What are you babbling about now? This wasn't about negotiating. It was about Dems trying to put DACA into a funding bill where it had no business being. Stop your nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:23:59 GMT -5
Oh geeze ... there you go all stupid again. Hey MORON ... I've said from the beginning this is how ALL legislation get's written ... negotiation, give and take. You're the idiot who lives in your alternate reality ... where you believe the sausage factory will suddenly produce nothing but filet mignon. If you're too stupid to recognize that the Founding Fathers created this system for a reason then it's not worth arguing ... you'll ultimately just revert to your childish 'neener' retorts anyway. What are you babbling about now? This wasn't about negotiating. It was about Dems trying to put DACA into a funding bill where it had no business being. Stop your nonsense. You are literally arguing against the powers vested Congress in the Constitution while stomping your feet and yelling at people for pointing out your abject stupidity. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!! You really are a fvcking moron. |
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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 15:25:08 GMT -5
What are you babbling about now? This wasn't about negotiating. It was about Dems trying to put DACA into a funding bill where it had no business being. Stop your nonsense. You are literally arguing against the powers vested Congress in the Constitution while stomping your feet and yelling at people for pointing out your abject stupidity. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!! You really are a fvcking moron. I get it..you're ok with Dems playing games. Got it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:29:43 GMT -5
I get it ... you get all pissy when things don't go your way, no matter what the US Constitution says on the subject ... because you just 'know' better..
You're just an immature little anklebiter who can't handle reality.
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Post by StalkingButler on Jan 22, 2018 16:13:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 16:40:34 GMT -5
Wingnuts won the shutdown battle, but they're about to lose their war on immigration.
You want to see the rabid wingnut base whipped into a foam-at-the-mouth frenzy ... wait until DACA protections pass Congress.
Heh, heh, heh ... grab the popcorn, the wingnut racists' heads are about to go off like fireworks !!!
Republicans may have won the government shutdown battle, but there is still no winning strategy for the party on immigration.
The bottom line: No one knows what the White House wants on immigration. So while Democrats may be taking the short-term sting from an angry base, the bigger fight comes in three weeks, when Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has committed to take some action on protection for illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, called Dreamers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 18:19:59 GMT -5
See you all next month right back here on Feb 8th when the republicans do this again.
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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 18:23:05 GMT -5
I get it ... you get all pissy when things don't go your way, no matter what the US Constitution says on the subject ... because you just 'know' better.. You're just an immature little anklebiter who can't handle reality. You really are the ultimate hypocrite. But you know that deep down. You ain’t fooling anyone. |
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Post by theremedy on Jan 22, 2018 18:24:07 GMT -5
Exactly...they caved on the political game they were playing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 18:41:37 GMT -5
I get it ... you get all pissy when things don't go your way, no matter what the US Constitution says on the subject ... because you just 'know' better.. You're just an immature little anklebiter who can't handle reality. You really are the ultimate hypocrite. But you know that deep down. You ain’t fooling anyone. Heh, heh, heh ... Sure thing moron ... because you just 'know' stuff ... and the world revolves around you, ya little snowflake, if you don't like it then it must stop, to hell with the rules of Congress and the Constitution. The more you keep posting your little 'Neener ... neener' rants the more you prove what an idealogical imbecile you are. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 22:28:09 GMT -5
So maybe one of the resident wingnut lemmings can explain how their betters plan on passing another CR in a few weeks without Dem votes?
Maybe you wingnut lemmings can explain how your childish gloating will translate into passing the next extension in Feb?
Yeah, yeah ... I know ... you idiots aren't bright enough to think beyond you immediate gratifications ... ya'll are like 3 yr olds who have no grasp on reality, epitomized by your Racist-in-Chief party leader.
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Post by theremedy on Jan 23, 2018 7:51:31 GMT -5
You really are the ultimate hypocrite. But you know that deep down. You ain’t fooling anyone. Heh, heh, heh ... Sure thing moron ... because you just 'know' stuff ... and the world revolves around you, ya little snowflake, if you don't like it then it must stop, to hell with the rules of Congress and the Constitution. The more you keep posting your little 'Neener ... neener' rants the more you prove what an idealogical imbecile you are. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Hahahaha...I love it when you lose your mind like this. The funny thing is, for YEARS now, you keep coming back for more. You are the definition of a dumba55. Hahahahaha |
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Post by theremedy on Jan 23, 2018 7:52:55 GMT -5
So maybe one of the resident wingnut lemmings can explain how their betters plan on passing another CR in a few weeks without Dem votes? Maybe you wingnut lemmings can explain how your childish gloating will translate into passing the next extension in Feb? Yeah, yeah ... I know ... you idiots aren't bright enough to think beyond you immediate gratifications ... ya'll are like 3 yr olds who have no grasp on reality, epitomized by your Racist-in-Chief party leader. Why aren't the Dems going to vote? Are they going to hold their breath and stomp their feet like petulant children? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:09:16 GMT -5
Heh, heh, heh ... Sure thing moron ... because you just 'know' stuff ... and the world revolves around you, ya little snowflake, if you don't like it then it must stop, to hell with the rules of Congress and the Constitution. The more you keep posting your little 'Neener ... neener' rants the more you prove what an idealogical imbecile you are. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Hahahaha...I love it when you lose your mind like this. The funny thing is, for YEARS now, you keep coming back for more. You are the definition of a dumba55. Hahahahaha So you're arguing that you 'know' better than the US Constitution and the Senate rules ... yet you think I'm losing my mind. Ummm ... yeah ... sure thing, spanky ... Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!! Keep up the good work snowflake ... and keep basing your sense of self-worth on trying to get a reaction from me ... because that's what adults do. |
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Post by theremedy on Jan 23, 2018 14:38:31 GMT -5
Hahahaha...I love it when you lose your mind like this. The funny thing is, for YEARS now, you keep coming back for more. You are the definition of a dumba55. Hahahahaha So you're arguing that you 'know' better than the US Constitution and the Senate rules ... yet you think I'm losing my mind. Ummm ... yeah ... sure thing, spanky ... Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!! Keep up the good work snowflake ... and keep basing your sense of self-worth on trying to get a reaction from me ... because that's what adults do. Playing political games is in the constitution is it? Can you show me where it specifically states this? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 15:01:22 GMT -5
Heh, heh, heh ... that's your argument ... the words 'playing political games' isn't in the constitution, so it's wrong?
Wow ... you really are a fvcking moron.
Hey spanky, that's not how our constitution or laws work ... in fact it's the exact opposite of what the Framers set out to do. We operate on the premise that everyone has inalienable rights and are innocent until proven guilty ... which means that it's NOT illegal unless there is a statute or law that specifically says it's illegal.
So show me where it's against the Constitution OR the Rules of the Senate to 'play political games'?
I get it, ya little snowflake ... it got your panties in a bunch so it just must be wrong .... you just can't find a logical, adult reason to explain why you're pouting.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!
Geepers ... no wonder your a mindless lemming who gravitates to the wingnuts, you simply are too stupid to be left on your own else you'll end up wandering into traffic ... you need someone to tell you what to think and save you from yourself.
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Post by theremedy on Jan 23, 2018 15:49:49 GMT -5
Heh, heh, heh ... that's your argument ... the words 'playing political games' isn't in the constitution, so it's wrong? Wow ... you really are a fvcking moron. Hey spanky, that's not how our constitution or laws work ... in fact it's the exact opposite of what the Framers set out to do. We operate on the premise that everyone has inalienable rights and are innocent until proven guilty ... which means that it's NOT illegal unless there is a statute or law that specifically says it's illegal. So show me where it's against the Constitution OR the Rules of the Senate to 'play political games'? I get it, ya little snowflake ... it got your panties in a bunch so it just must be wrong .... you just can't find a logical, adult reason to explain why you're pouting. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!! Geepers ... no wonder your a mindless lemming who gravitates to the wingnuts, you simply are too stupid to be left on your own else you'll end up wandering into traffic ... you need someone to tell you what to think and save you from yourself. Hahahahaha....you're the one who kept stating what the Dems are doing is in accordance with the Constitution. I'm just asking you to show me where that is in the Constitution? Where is playing politics written in the Constitution. You've gotten yourself so twisted up with your moving of goalposts you don't even remember what you've posted. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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